Comments on: Fedora 12 Constantine on MacBook Aluminum 5,1 [Guide] http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2009/11/fedora-12-constantine-on-macbook-aluminum-51-guide/ Tutorials, Guides, Tips, and Tricks from Everyday Experiences Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:08:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: SendDerek http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2009/11/fedora-12-constantine-on-macbook-aluminum-51-guide/#comment-539 SendDerek Thu, 08 Apr 2010 01:36:05 +0000 http://www.derekhildreth.com/blog/?p=672#comment-539 I appreciate such an insightful and detailed response. I hope other readers will find use in it. Now, there is a MacBook and a MacBook Pro. I'm using a MacBook, not the Pro, and I notice the fans kicking in pretty often. It's not a terrible, damaging heat, just uncomfortable. I don't have any experience with the MacBook Pro except what you've just described. Thanks again. I appreciate such an insightful and detailed response. I hope other readers will find use in it.

Now, there is a MacBook and a MacBook Pro. I’m using a MacBook, not the Pro, and I notice the fans kicking in pretty often. It’s not a terrible, damaging heat, just uncomfortable. I don’t have any experience with the MacBook Pro except what you’ve just described. Thanks again.

]]> By: SendDerek http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2009/11/fedora-12-constantine-on-macbook-aluminum-51-guide/#comment-538 SendDerek Thu, 08 Apr 2010 01:33:05 +0000 http://www.derekhildreth.com/blog/?p=672#comment-538 It's a hot-in-your-lap hot, not necessarily a damaging sort of heat (at least on the MacBook 5,1 that I have, which is not the same as MacBook Pro mind you). It’s a hot-in-your-lap hot, not necessarily a damaging sort of heat (at least on the MacBook 5,1 that I have, which is not the same as MacBook Pro mind you).

]]> By: Jeremy http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2009/11/fedora-12-constantine-on-macbook-aluminum-51-guide/#comment-537 Jeremy Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:03:45 +0000 http://www.derekhildreth.com/blog/?p=672#comment-537 Should I be concerned about overheating then? I am debating whether I should upgrade from Snow Leopard to Fedora 12 and I am concerned about the heat issue. Thanks Should I be concerned about overheating then? I am debating whether I should upgrade from Snow Leopard to Fedora 12 and I am concerned about the heat issue.

Thanks

]]> By: Orod Moeini http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2009/11/fedora-12-constantine-on-macbook-aluminum-51-guide/#comment-536 Orod Moeini Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:52:10 +0000 http://www.derekhildreth.com/blog/?p=672#comment-536 Hi Luca, I'm a macbook pro 5,1 owner with Fedora 12. One way to get the keyboard back-light device working is through the command-line with this command: echo 100 | sudo tee -a /sys/class/leds/smc::kbd_backlight/brightness where the value can be anywhere between 0-255. This is no elegant solution but if it remains in your history its fairly easy to invoke it again. Back when devkit was not used to configure the system settings, you could compile and install the ubuntu hal-applesmc package from source (which where actually two c files that read and wrote to light-sensor and keyboard backlight and you would put the bundled fdi file linking to those compiled files (previoulsy edited for the path), under hal directories). That would give you access to the keyboard backlight through the keyboard keys (F5-F6) and an actual gnome icon would appear (as in screen brightness or volume, since its supported led device in gnome power management and other shit and stuff) Since its now supported directly in the kernel since 2.6.32 (current fedora 12 kernel) we should urge the devs to configure the device through devkit. I have no idea how to do this and a bit busy to look at the code or the man pages for the moment. applesmc: Apple MacBook Pro 5 detected: applesmc: - Model with accelerometer applesmc: - Model with light sensors and backlight applesmc: - Model with 20 temperature sensors applesmc: device has already been initialized (0xe0, 0xf8). applesmc: device successfully initialized. applesmc: 2 fans found. input: applesmc as /devices/platform/applesmc.768/input/input8 Registered led device: smc::kbd_backlight applesmc: driver successfully loaded. Regarding the heat that seems to come up much to often, this is due to nvidia 9600 GT graphic card being used, more powerful and hotter than the integrated nvidia 9400 M used by default by Mac OS X. Yes guys you have TWO graphic cards on this machine. The only one accessible through bios-compatibility mode is the 9600, hence that is the one configured and used. If you want to get access to the other card you have to boot linux in efi mode. (translation: complile and install grub2 for x86_64 EFI (grub.efi) machines and put it under fat32 gpt bootable partition with all the necessary modules - I forgot to mention grub 2 is modular and they sometime fail to load for no reason, fun fun fun - and configure grub.cfg (new syntax, some similarities to grub.conf ) to boot your machine) This way refit would recognize it at boot and you can boot your linux os in efi mode with both graphic cards accessible, but only one is connected to the screen (the one configured in mac os x) which should be put in the xorg file (BusID "PCI:02:00:0" for 9600 or BusID "PCI:03:00:0" for 9400 under device in you xorg.conf file), if not x will fail. If you have nvidia proprietary drivers, it will wake up both graphic cards and you will end up using both cards, to no battery life gain xDDD. Something there in the man pages for nvidia or the xorg configuration but had no time to look further for how to turn off the extra graphic card. By the way nvidia_backlight module won't work under efi, so there is no screen brightness control. I wrote a book. If anyone has questions, drop some lines here, might be able to help you avoid re-inventing the wheel and hours of pointless trial and error. cheers Hi Luca,

I’m a macbook pro 5,1 owner with Fedora 12.

One way to get the keyboard back-light device working is through the command-line with this command:

echo 100 | sudo tee -a /sys/class/leds/smc::kbd_backlight/brightness

where the value can be anywhere between 0-255.

This is no elegant solution but if it remains in your history its fairly easy to invoke it again.

Back when devkit was not used to configure the system settings, you could compile and install the ubuntu hal-applesmc package from source (which where actually two c files that read and wrote to light-sensor and keyboard backlight and you would put the bundled fdi file linking to those compiled files (previoulsy edited for the path), under hal directories).

That would give you access to the keyboard backlight through the keyboard keys (F5-F6) and an actual gnome icon would appear (as in screen brightness or volume, since its supported led device in gnome power management and other shit and stuff)

Since its now supported directly in the kernel since 2.6.32 (current fedora 12 kernel) we should urge the devs to configure the device through devkit. I have no idea how to do this and a bit busy to look at the code or the man pages for the moment.

applesmc: Apple MacBook Pro 5 detected:
applesmc: – Model with accelerometer
applesmc: – Model with light sensors and backlight
applesmc: – Model with 20 temperature sensors
applesmc: device has already been initialized (0xe0, 0xf8).
applesmc: device successfully initialized.
applesmc: 2 fans found.
input: applesmc as /devices/platform/applesmc.768/input/input8
Registered led device: smc::kbd_backlight
applesmc: driver successfully loaded.

Regarding the heat that seems to come up much to often, this is due to nvidia 9600 GT graphic card being used, more powerful and hotter than the integrated nvidia 9400 M used by default by Mac OS X. Yes guys you have TWO graphic cards on this machine.

The only one accessible through bios-compatibility mode is the 9600, hence that is the one configured and used. If you want to get access to the other card you have to boot linux in efi mode. (translation: complile and install grub2 for x86_64 EFI (grub.efi) machines and put it under fat32 gpt bootable partition with all the necessary modules – I forgot to mention grub 2 is modular and they sometime fail to load for no reason, fun fun fun – and configure grub.cfg (new syntax, some similarities to grub.conf ) to boot your machine)

This way refit would recognize it at boot and you can boot your linux os in efi mode with both graphic cards accessible, but only one is connected to the screen (the one configured in mac os x) which should be put in the xorg file (BusID “PCI:02:00:0″ for 9600 or BusID “PCI:03:00:0″ for 9400 under device in you xorg.conf file), if not x will fail. If you have nvidia proprietary drivers, it will wake up both graphic cards and you will end up using both cards, to no battery life gain xDDD. Something there in the man pages for nvidia or the xorg configuration but had no time to look further for how to turn off the extra graphic card. By the way nvidia_backlight module won’t work under efi, so there is no screen brightness control.

I wrote a book.

If anyone has questions, drop some lines here, might be able to help you avoid re-inventing the wheel and hours of pointless trial and error.

cheers

]]> By: luca http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2009/11/fedora-12-constantine-on-macbook-aluminum-51-guide/#comment-535 luca Fri, 02 Apr 2010 02:21:21 +0000 http://www.derekhildreth.com/blog/?p=672#comment-535 Hi, I have a Macbook Pro 5.4 (very similar hardware) here is a suggestion to make the shound working Add at the end of /etc/rc.local amixer -c 0 set 'Surround Speaker' 115 unmute amixer -c 0 set 'Front Speaker' 115 unmute amixer -c 0 set 'Surround Speaker Playback Volum' 115 unmute Also if you want the fn key to act normally (i.e., if you press F1 is F1 and to change the screen luminosity you press fn+F1) att to /etc/rc.local echo "2" > /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode If someone gets the keyboard backlight to work let me know! hope it helps! Hi,

I have a Macbook Pro 5.4 (very similar hardware) here is a suggestion to make the shound working

Add at the end of /etc/rc.local
amixer -c 0 set ‘Surround Speaker’ 115 unmute
amixer -c 0 set ‘Front Speaker’ 115 unmute
amixer -c 0 set ‘Surround Speaker Playback Volum’ 115 unmute

Also if you want the fn key to act normally (i.e., if you press F1 is F1 and to change
the screen luminosity you press fn+F1) att to /etc/rc.local

echo “2″ > /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode

If someone gets the keyboard backlight to work let me know!

hope it helps!

]]> By: Hugh http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2009/11/fedora-12-constantine-on-macbook-aluminum-51-guide/#comment-534 Hugh Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:47:46 +0000 http://www.derekhildreth.com/blog/?p=672#comment-534 I think the parent may only be referring to older models, but FWIW I originally installed Fedora 11 x86_64 with rEFIt and then used preupgrade to upgrade to F12 x86_64 on my 5,1 pro without any serious issues (I think I had to get rEFIt to re-check the partitions afterwards - can't remember...). I think the parent may only be referring to older models, but FWIW I originally installed Fedora 11 x86_64 with rEFIt and then used preupgrade to upgrade to F12 x86_64 on my 5,1 pro without any serious issues (I think I had to get rEFIt to re-check the partitions afterwards – can’t remember…).

]]> By: SendDerek http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2009/11/fedora-12-constantine-on-macbook-aluminum-51-guide/#comment-533 SendDerek Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:32:15 +0000 http://www.derekhildreth.com/blog/?p=672#comment-533 I was able to install F12 without removing rEFIt on my 5,1 model. It's not the "Pro" model, so maybe there are some differences, but that surprises me that you had so much trouble. Thanks for the insight. I was able to install F12 without removing rEFIt on my 5,1 model. It’s not the “Pro” model, so maybe there are some differences, but that surprises me that you had so much trouble. Thanks for the insight.

]]> By: Glen Turner http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2009/11/fedora-12-constantine-on-macbook-aluminum-51-guide/#comment-532 Glen Turner Mon, 01 Feb 2010 05:28:39 +0000 http://www.derekhildreth.com/blog/?p=672#comment-532 Note carefully that if you previously installed Fedora using rEFIt, then upgrading your system to Fedora 12 will irretrievably break it, the only way out being removing rEFIt and a complete reinstall. There are multiple bugs open on this, but "Macbook Pro is a unsupported platform" summarises the tone of the responses. Because rEFIt does not work, and EFI support in Fedora 12 only begins with Santa Rosa Macs, there is no way to get Fedora 12 working on the earliest MacBook Pro Intel. I can tell you to my cost that upgrading on those machines simply results in a completely borked system with no way out beyond installing Ubuntu (which uses GRUB2). Note carefully that if you previously installed Fedora using rEFIt, then upgrading your system to Fedora 12 will irretrievably break it, the only way out being removing rEFIt and a complete reinstall. There are multiple bugs open on this, but “Macbook Pro is a unsupported platform” summarises the tone of the responses.

Because rEFIt does not work, and EFI support in Fedora 12 only begins with Santa Rosa Macs, there is no way to get Fedora 12 working on the earliest MacBook Pro Intel. I can tell you to my cost that upgrading on those machines simply results in a completely borked system with no way out beyond installing Ubuntu (which uses GRUB2).

]]> By: lutzhell http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2009/11/fedora-12-constantine-on-macbook-aluminum-51-guide/#comment-531 lutzhell Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:15:19 +0000 http://www.derekhildreth.com/blog/?p=672#comment-531 Hi, i´ve found a solution to the keyboard backlight problem at least for my MacBook Pro 3.1 https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pommed/ The INSTALL readme explains everything. After installation be sure to have the right path to your pommed as value for DAEMON in /etc/init.d/pommed.init Have a lot fun with it :) Cheers, Lutz Hi,

i´ve found a solution to the keyboard backlight problem at least for my MacBook Pro 3.1

https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pommed/

The INSTALL readme explains everything.

After installation be sure to have the right path to your pommed as value for DAEMON in /etc/init.d/pommed.init

Have a lot fun with it :)
Cheers,
Lutz

]]> By: Branden http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2009/11/fedora-12-constantine-on-macbook-aluminum-51-guide/#comment-530 Branden Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:59:08 +0000 http://www.derekhildreth.com/blog/?p=672#comment-530 Hello All, I found your website before I attempted the install of F12 on my white Macbook - the 2006 White Macbook. I installed F12 and out of the box everything is sweet. Wireless and all. Here's my issue now though. I run software update after install and I have no updates. Ok. Maybe there are no updates, or maybe because I'm behind a firewall? I don't know, so I go home and try it and same thing. At some random point in the night, I was told I had 301 updates. I unchecked the Japanese language update since I don't and may never speak Japanese and the update hung and quit. I go to Terminal and run "yum update" and I'm told the yum lock is in use by another application. I kill the PID's, I restart the computer multiple times. I run it again and kill the new PID's and nothing. I run "yum clean all" and it allows me to run "yum update" and I can run SW Update from Gnome. Now Gnome SW Update says no Updates available and "yum update" tells me I need to add a repository. My question is, what is yum clean and how did that fix that particular piece of the puzzle and how do I add repositories? Hello All,
I found your website before I attempted the install of F12 on my white Macbook – the 2006 White Macbook. I installed F12 and out of the box everything is sweet. Wireless and all. Here’s my issue now though. I run software update after install and I have no updates. Ok. Maybe there are no updates, or maybe because I’m behind a firewall? I don’t know, so I go home and try it and same thing. At some random point in the night, I was told I had 301 updates. I unchecked the Japanese language update since I don’t and may never speak Japanese and the update hung and quit. I go to Terminal and run “yum update” and I’m told the yum lock is in use by another application. I kill the PID’s, I restart the computer multiple times. I run it again and kill the new PID’s and nothing. I run “yum clean all” and it allows me to run “yum update” and I can run SW Update from Gnome. Now Gnome SW Update says no Updates available and “yum update” tells me I need to add a repository.

My question is, what is yum clean and how did that fix that particular piece of the puzzle and how do I add repositories?

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